In the U.S. small talk is usually about the weather or maybe what you do for a living. In Indonesia the focus tends to be on very personal details. “Where are you from?”, “Where do you work?”, “Are you married?” “How much do you pay in rent?”, “What’s your religion?” many questions Americans consider private are completely the norm in Indonesia. Answering this line of questioning on a daily basis has made it nearly impossible for me to distinguish between interest and invasiveness.
Last week, before going to Singapore, Sara and I spent a day wandering around Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia. At one point in the day, the sun was getting to Sara, so she sat down and I continued to walk in the vicinity trying to get a good angle for a photograph of the largest flag pole in Malaysia. While walking around the lawns of Freedom Square, I said hello to a man washing his feet in a ditch. He recognized the greeting as Indonesian and told me the Malay equivalent, and then began into what seemed like a normal line of questioning.
“Where are you from?” America.
“What are you doing in Malaysia?” Travelling.
“Where are you staying?” I lied, and said I was staying at the YMCA.
“How much did the room cost?” Again I lied and gave a lower number than I really was paying. Remember, I answer things like this all the time in Indonesia.
“Do you like taking photos?” I smile, nod, and lift up my camera.
“Blah… blah… take photos… blah… blah…?” The Malay accent and pacing threw me off, so I didn’t get the full gist of the question. I gave a non-commital yeah.
“Blah… blah… baju?” Baju means shirt. Indonesia has both distorted my sense of normalcy and taught me when to be cautious. I’ve been asked to buy t-shirts. I’ve been asked if I wanted to donate my shirt. Past experience told me, that I didn’t want to be saying yes to this question. I ask for clarification.
“Blah… blah… buka baju?” Buka? Buka means open. I was still thinking that this guy wanted to sell me a t-shirt. I asked if he had some sort of store.
“Anda mau ambil foto saya berbuka baju?” It took me longer than I should have to process this. Before I fully comprehended the sentence I asked if he wanted me to take a photo of him.
A second later, right when I realized he was asking if I wanted to take nude photos of him he said, “Saya sex worker.” There really was no ambiguity at this point.
After a few seconds of awkward silence I said, “Sorry I’m here with my wife.” He apologized and then I replied with a “tidak apa apa” (“no problem”). Damn you Indonesia! I can’t even decline a male prostitute’s solicitation without being polite and taking into account how to save face.
Most people at this point most people would end the conversation. Instead I continued with the Indo small talk mode. I asked if he was working. He told me that he works at night and spends the day siteseeing. I followed by asking how long he’s been working as a sex worker. He then went into detail about how manysex workers work for someone else, but he’s been a “lone wolf” for a long time.
Given that I’ve never really chatted with a sex worker before, I just let curiousity dictate my speech, I asked how he liked his work. He said that sometimes it’s good sometimes it’s bad. But it’s better when the customer is satisfied. I still have not decided if this answer is surprising or unsurprising. Before this conversation, I had never really considered the parallels between prostitution and a typical cubicle job.
I didn’t know what to say at this point. So I blurted out “Be careful.”
“Why?”
“Ummm.. there are lots of diseases out there.”
“I was checked out last week. I’m clean. But, many sex workers are afraid to get tested.”
“Why? What are they worried about?”
“They are ready physically, but not ready mentally. They are scared to get tested. What’s your opinion?” I gave some vague answer about the importance of knowing if you were sick, and then told him that Sara works for an NGO that works with sex workers. She would have been much better equipped for this conversation. I guess I could have tried to fetch her as she was only about 100 feet away, but I really didn’t want to interrupt what little flow we had.
Somehow the talk of NGOs lead to a talk about religion, and the sex worker whose name I never did get started to open up. “I used to be a transvestite. I started taking hormones when I was 17 to grow breasts. I no longer do that, and now I just dress unisex, but god does not approve of my lifestyle. What do you think?”
I told him that it was between him and his god, and that in my opinion, if there is a god, he would not care. I added that it’s more important to be a good person.
He agreed and then opened up even more. “I sometimes have dreams that I am one of the beautiful women I see on TV. I am not gay though. I have slept with men and performed oral sex on them them, but I’m not gay. What do you think?”
I attempted to tell him how people need to understand it is not a choice, but it was just how he was born. I really felt bad for him, there probably is very little outlet or support for the marginalized in uber-strict Malaysia.
Sara recharged and ready to go came by to see who I was talking to. She actually thought I was talking to a woman as she could only see his long hair from afar. I wished him a good day, and we were on our way.
*This post’s title is a reference to how my friend Navin has been propositioned by a few men over the years.